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26th Jun 2007, 11:42 AM #101You've never taken acid have you Paul?
All I'm saying is that its very lazy writing wise to describe something that way.
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26th Jun 2007, 12:02 PM #102Wayne Guest
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26th Jun 2007, 12:39 PM #103
Damn you Jefferies!
This thread is like a standard PS thread on acid!
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26th Jun 2007, 12:48 PM #104Wayne Guest
It's all good stuff on here.
It's like a Dr.Who forum on ac..... Hang on, you can overplay a gag.
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26th Jun 2007, 1:11 PM #105
Things that irritate me.
THINGS THAT IRRITATE ME! :
- People who take ages to get back to you at work, then when the deadline is close start hassling you
- People who take something from where it lives, use it, then just leave it there
- Shops displaying things they can't sell you
- Having an unelected PM
- Smokers. "They're interferring a bit too much in our personal lives". F**K OFF!
- People who ring when you're doing something (I know it's not their fault, but it still irritates me!)
- Junk mail
- Cocky people on TV - Russell Brand, that pair on The Friday Night Project etc. Ooh, I'm rude and a lil bit camp and WORTHLESS so laugh at me.
Si.
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26th Jun 2007, 1:39 PM #106
I hate the Friday Night Project too. What's the point of it?
People who ring when you're doing something (I know it's not their fault, but it still irritates me!)
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26th Jun 2007, 1:59 PM #107
Who rings while "Coronation Street" is on as well! People have had 47 years to learn to avoid that time!!
Si.
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26th Jun 2007, 3:34 PM #108Wayne Guest
I hardly ever answer either of my phones anyway. I'm one of those irritating (probably) people where you'll have leave a message & i'll get back to you when i feel like it.
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26th Jun 2007, 4:01 PM #109
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26th Jun 2007, 5:09 PM #110
Convince me the Labour Party would still have been elected in 1997 with Brown, not Blair, at the helm and I'll agree with you.
Besides, we DO vote for a leader as well as the party. It's the leader that's got to personally negotiate with other heads of state and ultimately be responsible for foreign and domestic policy.
Si.
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26th Jun 2007, 11:00 PM #111
That's an absurd criterion. For one thing I was not eligible to vote back then, and therefore have no in-depth knowledge of the politics of the time. For another, I can't prove that, as you well know, any more than you can prove that they wouldn't have been elected then with Gordon Brown, or that they wouldn't have been had there been a general election immediately after Blair's resignation, or that they won't be re-elected with Brown at the helm when the next general election comes round.
That's a thing that irritates me: being asked to prove something the asker knows cannot be proven. Why not just say you disagree and list your reasons rather than ask an unanswerable question or demand an unsatisfiable standard of proof to change your mind?
Besides, we DO vote for a leader as well as the party.
Personally I couldn't care less. The three major parties all seem to have some good ideas and some bad ones, so it all seems much of a muchness to me.
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27th Jun 2007, 12:00 AM #112If it was, you'd be watching a shark telling you the best soil conditions to grows tomatoes in.
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27th Jun 2007, 12:32 PM #113That's an absurd criterion. For one thing I was not eligible to vote back then, and therefore have no in-depth knowledge of the politics of the time.
For another, I can't prove that, as you well know, any more than you can prove that they wouldn't have been elected then with Gordon Brown, or that they wouldn't have been had there been a general election immediately after Blair's resignation, or that they won't be re-elected with Brown at the helm when the next general election comes round.
That's a thing that irritates me: being asked to prove something the asker knows cannot be proven. Why not just say you disagree and list your reasons rather than ask an unanswerable question or demand an unsatisfiable standard of proof to change your mind?
Si.
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27th Jun 2007, 1:10 PM #114
I was 17 and deep into my A-levels. Since I was not eligible to vote I saw no reason to expend energies involving myself in things I could not change when I had a rather more pressing set of things to worry about. I had no interest whatsoever in politics in those days. It has everything to do with the issue at hand, because you're asking me to convince you of something that requires in-depth knowledge of an event I simply do not have.
I didn't ask you to prove anything Jason, nor did I ask an "unanswerable question"! I just said if you could convince me that the last election wasn't won on Blair's personality, rather than the Labour Party's policies, then I'd concur.
I get asked to prove things or convince people of things an awful lot on other forums, and I refuse to answer the question until I have a reasonable idea of what the person asking would consider proof or a convincing argument.
My very vague recollection of the situation at the time was that public opinion generally held the conservative government to be pretty shite following the recession of the early 90s, and the severity of their defeat in the election leads me towards the suspicion that the conservatives were on the way out anyway. Given my understanding of the political parties of the time, the Lib Dems weren't likely to get in, and none of the other parties have ever had enough clout to realistically be elected to government. That leaves Labour. I'm not denying Blair's personality was a big factor, or that he was a driving force in making Labour a more appealing political party to vote for, but at the end of the day it's the party and not the man that is elected to government, and you can't be certain that someone other than Blair couldn't have also led the Labour party to victory in 1997.
John Major was an unelected PM until the first general election following his appointment. I can't believe his personality influenced the voting much, as every interview I've seen with him he seems pretty well devoid of personality!
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27th Jun 2007, 1:24 PM #115
I was old enough to vote at the time, and from what I recall the Conservatives never really recovered from the problems caused them by the "Black Wednesday" episode on 16 September 1992. Labour was doing well even under John Smith before he died in 1994, so personally I think they would have had a fairly good chance of winning under him. He was even one of the people thought likely to have a go at standing for the job after Smith's death, although he didn't in the event.
Blair did mark more of a symbolic break with the past than Smith did (the scrapping of Clause 4 from the Labour constitution in 1994-5 was seen as a sign of that), and he had a more emollient voter-wooing style than most of his recent predecessors, and I'm not sure Brown would have had quite the same effect, but in my view he would probably have won.
Although I'd have thought the 2005 election was just as relevant to this, as that's the most recent, and the same person ended up as Prime Minister on that occasion.
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27th Jun 2007, 1:35 PM #116It has everything to do with the issue at hand, because you're asking me to convince you of something that requires in-depth knowledge of an event I simply do not have.
I certainly wasn't "demanding proof" of anything, nor did I intend to launch a mass debate.
Si.
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27th Jun 2007, 2:29 PM #117
My point is how am I supposed to do that? If you want me to convince you that not all ginger cats are male, all I need do is show you Emma's old pet cat, who was giner and female. If you want me to convince you it is possible to orbit a black hole I could show you some of the relevant scientific data. To convince you that a party's policies and not the charisma of their leader was the reaon for their election victory ten years ago, how do I do that? What objective evidence can I provide for you to do it?
I was very casually saying I'd revise my opinion if persauded, in the same way one would say "well I'll change my opinion of lorry drivers if you convince me they arn't all rude louts".
I certainly wasn't "demanding proof" of anything, nor did I intend to launch a mass debate.
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27th Jun 2007, 2:35 PM #118Dave Lewis Guest
I enjoy launching myself into a good mass debate.
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27th Jun 2007, 2:46 PM #119
There'll be no mass debating here, Mr Lewis. Save it for the Temple....
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9th Jul 2007, 4:43 PM #120
Now this is my sort of thread!
THINGS THAT IRRITATE ME...
-Telephones - the single rudest invention since one caveman began banging rocks together too loudly
-Stretch limousines - despite what you might think when you drive along in one of these on the way to your hen party/sixth form prom/etc no one thinks, 'Ooh, I wonder who's in that! Maybe it's a celeb!' they think 'Ooh, I wonder who's in that so that when I next see them I can stab them with something sharp'
-People who say 'sh-roos-bree' instead of 'sh-rows-bree'. I know they're both correct but the first one just sounds so lazy
-People who say 'i.e.' when they mean 'e.g.'
-People who say 'd'you know what I mean?' unnecessarily
-Ben Kingsley
-Parents who buy colossal behemoths of landrovers/battlecruisers to ferry some very small children around, because, after all, children are the most important thing. Bollocks. I'd put a number of things ahead of them including oxygen and gravity
-Pesco-vegetarians - you're just picking on the fish
<Phew>Last edited by Michael Mills; 9th Jul 2007 at 4:45 PM. Reason: To correct some heinous spelling mistakes
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9th Jul 2007, 6:35 PM #121Captain Tancredi Guest
That'll be the Welsh, then- my understanding (as I was told by an old Shropshire hand) is that that's how it's pronounced on the Welsh side of the Severn.
One of my pet hates at the moment is people who have a pop song or something similar as their ringtone, and who proceed to let the whole tune play every time their phone rings rather than actually answering it.
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9th Jul 2007, 8:22 PM #122
One of my pet hates at the moment is actually the mobile phone, let alone the ringtone. Viv keeps on that I need one and must have one, I keep telling her "I've lived almost 52 years without one, and don't intend on getting one now" I think they're the bane of modern society and they really do irritate me.
Incidentally, Viv's fave ringtone is the sound of a baby laughing along to Woody Woodpecker, I think she sent it to Zel last time we met, I can just imagine the two ringtones going off together at one of our next BBQs.
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9th Jul 2007, 8:40 PM #123Pip Madeley GuestOne of my pet hates at the moment is actually the mobile phone, let alone the ringtone.
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9th Jul 2007, 9:23 PM #124
I don't think my cell has been off of silent/vibrate alert since the day I got it...
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10th Jul 2007, 7:21 AM #125
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