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14th Jan 2009, 10:15 PM #126
I agree. Holly was pretty poor when he returned in Series 7 - Lovett somehow managed to look like he was reading off a cue card and his mere presence was a sickeningly indulgent 'fanwanky' gesture that must have baffled any viewers of less than five years standing. Personally I always liked Hattie Hayridge - she was my first "Holly" - and I've always felt that to give her the boot just to get Norman back after he walked out on them was an appalling way to treat her.
As for that bitter rant on his blog - it's TV, things like that happen. He should be able to handle such things in a professional way if he's been in the industry 20 years. I also don't agree they should have phoned him - e-mail is just as personal and common way of communicating with people these days. It's obvious they have worked on the budget and realised there are more important things to spend the money on that a character they managed perfectly well without for all but the first two years of the show. Perhaps they are actually thinking about the best way they can spend the budget to make a good show, rather than frittering it away to give their mate his cameo. "Red Dwarf" probably only hit the skids in the first place because it became an "old boys network", more concerned with the laughs happening behind the scenes than from the viewers.
Si.
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14th Jan 2009, 10:17 PM #127Pip Madeley GuestPersonally I always liked Hattie Hayridge - she was my first "Holly" - and I've always felt that to give her the boot just to get Norman back after he walked out on them was an appalling way to treat her.
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14th Jan 2009, 10:17 PM #128
Is it just me that would rather have Holly back than Kochanski?
Si xx
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14th Jan 2009, 10:27 PM #129Pip Madeley Guest
I love Chloe Annett as Kochanski.
Luckily so does Doug Naylor.
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14th Jan 2009, 10:27 PM #130
Hattie was a better Holly I must admit. I did prefer her to Norman & was quite put out not to see her in the last series.
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14th Jan 2009, 11:12 PM #131
Annett isn't the best actress in the world but she probably offers more storyline opportunities (particuarly wrt Lister) than Holly does. Plus she's a draw for the Dads and the heteros.
I often think what screwed them up is bloody Barrie leaving and then changing his mind a year later - that left them with a pretty huge regular cast which must have dug into the budget.
Si.
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14th Jan 2009, 11:14 PM #132
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I loved Kochanski whilst she was played by Claire Grogan, but the new version never endeared herself to me. I see Holly as being intergral to the series as he's the voice of the ship, personifying it really, and I'll miss his droll additions to the episodes.
As for that bitter rant on his blog - it's TV, things like that happen. He should be able to handle such things in a professional way if he's been in the industry 20 years. I also don't agree they should have phoned him - e-mail is just as personal and common way of communicating with people these days. It's obvious they have worked on the budget and realised there are more important things to spend the money on that a character they managed perfectly well without for all but the first two years of the show. Perhaps they are actually thinking about the best way they can spend the budget to make a good show, rather than frittering it away to give their mate his cameo. "Red Dwarf" probably only hit the skids in the first place because it became an "old boys network", more concerned with the laughs happening behind the scenes than from the viewers.
And for me it was Rob Grant leaving, and other writer's being brought in, that led it to hitting the skids, though that's obviously a personal opinion..."RIP Henchman No.24."
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14th Jan 2009, 11:49 PM #133
Well "pathetic" is a pretty 'toys out your pram' way to describe someone who decides not to use you in a TV production, and makes him appear... well, pathetic.
And I'm sure whole TV shows are planned and produced via e-mail these days. Indeed, arguably e-mail or "personal e-mail" as it's called when sent to you directly, is a perfectly personal way of contact. They could have called his agent. I think he's just having a tantrum because he thinks he has some kind of right to be in "Red Dwarf", when they can quite clearly do without him.
Si.
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15th Jan 2009, 7:49 AM #134
I used to be a big Dwarf fan (fan club, bootlegged copies of S1 long before the offical video releases etc, went LARPing as the crew) - but this news of "new" series just fills me with dread. Leave me with my memories, don't come along and spoil it with a budget episode.
(though I'll probably still watch - possibly from behind lashed fingers and muttering "No no no no NO!")Creator of Doctor WHeasel and sometime political radical
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15th Jan 2009, 8:49 AM #135
What fills me with dread about is the thought of four fat old actors squeezing themselves into their old outfits for a reunion jolly. I really like the 'spirit' of Red Dwarf, the 'beaten up' and ironic nature of the Red Dwarf Universe, and the jokes. The whole idea of sending up Star Trek's bright new vision of the future - that humanity might end up as one curry swilling oaf bombing about the Universe in a spaceship with a duff battery. That kind of thing. So *I* think the best way forward is to create and cast a new set of characters, and to make a new version of "Red Dwarf". There's no future in this show because the actors are all too old for this anyway, let alone for the prospect of future episodes. I think that's what's so depressing. All the best concepts are bigger than the original cast, so have the legs to carry on without them.
Si.
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15th Jan 2009, 3:28 PM #136
It's going to be the Out of Time future crew - only for real this time.
Creator of Doctor WHeasel and sometime political radical
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27th Jan 2009, 8:16 AM #137
The BBC speaks:
Cult comedy Red Dwarf is returning to TV, 21 years after its initial launch.
The show has been resurrected by digital channel Dave for a two-part Easter weekend special, which sees the cast finally return to Earth.
Written and directed by Red Dwarf co-creator Doug Naylor, the new show reunites the line-up, including Coronation Street's Craig Charles.
The hit show, which ran for eight series on BBC Two between 1988 and 1999, won an International Emmy award.
Set three million years into the future, the show followed the exploits of Dave Lister, slovenly crew member of the mining ship Red Dwarf - and the last man in the universe.
He was joined in his weekly attempts to make it back to Earth by a cast of oddballs including human hologram Arnold Rimmer, sanitation mechanoid Kryton and Cat - a preening half-man, half-animal who evolved from the ship's cat.
At its peak, Red Dwarf pulled in around eight million viewers and was broadcast in more than 25 countries.
It has sold more than seven million DVDs and videos.
The new two-part series Red Dwarf: Back to Earth will be followed by a "no holds barred" episode without sets, special effects or autocue.
The weekend will climax with Red Dwarf: the Making of Back to Earth, a behind-the-scenes special from the new episodes.
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27th Jan 2009, 9:04 AM #138Pip Madeley Guest
I seem to recall "Back To Earth" was the original idea for the end of series VIII but it was deemed too expensive...
The new two-part series Red Dwarf: Back to Earth will be followed by a "no holds barred" episode without sets, special effects or autocue.
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27th Jan 2009, 9:14 AM #139sanitation mechanoid KrytonPity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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27th Jan 2009, 11:05 AM #140The new two-part series Red Dwarf: Back to Earth will be followed by a "no holds barred" episode without sets, special effects or autocue.
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27th Jan 2009, 12:13 PM #141
How can you have an episode without sets? Unless it's on audio?
Si.
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27th Jan 2009, 12:36 PM #142
it's going to be shit, isn't it?
Ant x
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27th Jan 2009, 2:20 PM #143
yes.
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27th Jan 2009, 2:39 PM #144
Oh god.
This just sounds worse and worse.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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27th Jan 2009, 2:40 PM #145
Its apparently all going to be done in mime as well.
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27th Jan 2009, 6:13 PM #146
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27th Jan 2009, 7:02 PM #147Pip Madeley Guest
Now now gang, let's be positive about this, we've not seen anything yet and who knows, Dave might just surprise us. And you'd be surprised how cheap Red Dwarf is to make - Doug Naylor once revealed that the total budget of series VIII was equal to that of the second series of dinnerladies. And that's a sitcom set entirely on one set!
Anyway, it sounds like they're ploughing all the money they've got into this two-parter... question is, will it be present-day Earth?
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27th Jan 2009, 7:23 PM #148Doug Naylor once revealed that the total budget of series VIII was equal to that of the second series of dinnerladies
No sets, effects or autocue sounds odd on the face of it, but... why would they have an autocue anyway? And maybe 'no sets' just means it's all green screen - a whole episode done using CSO, it's like Barry Letts' dream (or Graham Williams' nightmare).
I always enjoyed Red Dwarf, but never became a huge, huge fan, which means that I'm actually quite looking forward to this new stuff, but without the huge expectation setting me up for disappointment.
Let's hope it doesn't clash with the DW Easter Special!!!
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27th Jan 2009, 7:43 PM #149Pip Madeley GuestI have to ponder how he'd know that?
FYI Doug's comment was in the series VIII scriptbook.
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27th Jan 2009, 8:29 PM #150
Would Walters and Wood's fees be included in "the dinnerladies budget"?
Si.
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