Thread: New Theme: Thoughts?
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27th Dec 2007, 1:21 AM #1
New Theme: Thoughts?
What are your thoughts on Tennant's new theme?
For me, it's a lot like McCoy's, in that it sounds a bit crap lol. I'm sorry but it's waaay too cluttered. It'd be fine if they just had one element or taken another one out- if you're gonna have the new beats n' modern guitar edge you can't keep the full orchestra. It's like they kept his last series' theme n' just tacked on the new guitar n' beats is what I'm getting at.
Besides, why have a new theme? If RTD's legacy will be anything, it'll be inconsistency- inconsistent companions, and inconsistent theme.
(Wow, what happened to me Xmas spirit? lol I'll just put a smiley at the end so the post won't be so bitchy)
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27th Dec 2007, 1:33 AM #2
Dunno if I like it yet. Need to hear it again... but I'm really not sure about the credit cutting at the end. Shortened theme tune and you had to use your pause/slow-motion button to actually read the credits. Hope that's not going to become normal.
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27th Dec 2007, 2:12 AM #3
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As above, got into the opening titles (reminded me a bit of that horrible Mcgann movie)
but the end titles whizzed by like a cheap US comedy show. I am concerned that ideas are running low and gimmicks like Kylie and jazzing up the theme tune are all thats left !
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27th Dec 2007, 3:51 AM #4
That's usually a sign that a producer* should probably be thinking of moving on
(of course, JN-T started stuff like that in his first season...)
I was hoping they'd do a remix job of the Peter Howell version, and not just ANOTHER remix job of the original version. But there you go.
*in this context "producer" actually means "big, gay Welshman"
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27th Dec 2007, 3:59 AM #5
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27th Dec 2007, 10:39 AM #6Pip Madeley Guest
Some might not be aware that it was actually 'jazzed up' in this manner for the 'Time Crash' special, but RTD and co decided it was too good to be used for such a short scene and promoted it to 'VOTD'. It's a one-off, apparently. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist about. I rather like the rocky theme, I must admit.
As for the speedy credits, I disliked them too, but I assumed that was because they were trying to fit as much material in as possible and had to make sacrifices elsewhere. Bit like episode three of The Christmas Gnomes (which about 6 people listened to by the look of it ) which also had shortened end credits.
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27th Dec 2007, 10:47 AM #7
I would assume that the shortened credits were for time reasons, and hope that they will return to normal for the new series!
As for the new theme, it took me by surprise, and I haven't had a chance to listen again!One Day, I shall come back, Yes, I shall come back,
Until them, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties, Just go forward in all your beliefs,
and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine!
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27th Dec 2007, 11:37 AM #8
Hmm the shortened credits look like they're here to stay. SFX has a petition in this issue to stop it. Apparently this is something the BBC have requested from all their shows.
The changing of the feem choon though isn't the end of the world. I remember when Deep Space Nine changed its music and then became completely unmissable (new theme tune = addition of Worf and the Dominion War).Geoff
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27th Dec 2007, 11:38 AM #9
I think the speed of the credits will most likely have been because there was a directive at the BBC in May that closing title sequences should only last 25 - 30 seconds on any of their programmes made after that date, so as to make channel hopping once the credits started less likely. This is the first Doctor Who episode that'll have been affected.
Edited to add: Indeed, Enzo got there before me.
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27th Dec 2007, 12:03 PM #10
That makes perfect sense - 30 second credits which make you feel sick are much less likely to make a viewer switch off than 50 second credits which can be read. Modern viewers crave nausea. Focus groups said so.
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27th Dec 2007, 1:14 PM #11Pip Madeley Guest
Let's hope they're slowed down for the DVDs.
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27th Dec 2007, 1:34 PM #12
The theme was a great rocky version, but it didn't work with the titles particularly well.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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27th Dec 2007, 1:41 PM #13
jury is still out for me the opening theme tune/credits are ok but I don't like the end one they have lost that big orchestra epicness feel and the enlarged credits just seem a bit on the cheap and tacky side.
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27th Dec 2007, 4:11 PM #14
Unneccesary. If there was going to be a one off theme for Christmas, why wasn't it an extra Christmassy version with bells on? I didn't object to it though.
Besides, why have a new theme? If RTD's legacy will be anything, it'll be inconsistency- inconsistent companions, and inconsistent theme.
Si.
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27th Dec 2007, 4:13 PM #15Unneccesary. If there was going to be a one off theme for Christmas, why wasn't it an extra Christmassy version with bells on? I didn't object to it though.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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27th Dec 2007, 4:20 PM #16
I was half-thinking that's what they were going to do with VOTD when I first noticed it was different. Never mind, maybe next year!
We can hardly call the old series titles consistent anyway, the Tom ones were tinted differently every week and what with the different versions of the theme used on every other Troughton story as well...
Si.
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27th Dec 2007, 5:16 PM #17Pip Madeley Guest
Not to mention the early Pertwee stories - one week it's the Troughton theme, then it's the stuttering start theme, then it's 'the one with the middle 8' theme...
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27th Dec 2007, 6:40 PM #18
It's not bad, and the little Howell-esque influences are nice, but it might take a bit of getting used to. They could do with turning the percussion down in the mix slightly, too.
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27th Dec 2007, 7:38 PM #19
Well I bloody liked it! So there!!
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27th Dec 2007, 7:48 PM #20
I never liked the original "New series" version to start with.
It's ok but a bit bland and TV Movie esque for me. It should be more haunting. I liked the "VOTD" version but can't remember much about it now.
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27th Dec 2007, 8:03 PM #21
At the risk of incurring another "the season 18 and 19 starfields are obviously different you fool" reply, what bits of the theme are Howell-y? Even the BBC site mentions it, but I didn't spot it/them.
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27th Dec 2007, 9:29 PM #22
As a musician, I should be able to describe which bit sounded most like Howell's version, but it would be easier if I could hum it to you.
Basically, it's the little flourish (wah-wah-wah-WAH-WAH-WAH-WAAAAH) just after the main melody, as the story title/writer appears.
That doesn't help, does it?
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27th Dec 2007, 9:33 PM #23
They should add the "off at a tangent" middle 8 from the extended version of the Howell theme if anyone knows the bit I mean...it all sort of veers off and then it comes back again.
Breakitdown!
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27th Dec 2007, 9:35 PM #24Pip Madeley Guest
That's the worst bit of the Howell theme, I've always thought... it's synth-tastic and then it just goes terribly high and twee
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27th Dec 2007, 9:40 PM #25
Well at at least they didn't bring back the 'wolf-whistle' bit from the end of the theme.
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