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1st Jan 2009, 3:53 PM #1WhiteCrow Guest
The Next Doctor: Them Victorian Cliches!
Just finished watching the Next Doctor again.
I did enjoy it but I was trying to think and count all them Victorian cliches which pop up.
* Do all Victorian adventures have to happen at winter/Christmas? I can't think of any Victorian tale which doesn't involve Winter in some way. Was ot ever summer in those days?
* Little street urchin asked "what day is this"
* Crowds of workhouse kids.
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1st Jan 2009, 7:32 PM #2
Yeah I watched it (and then confidential which I'd taped on Xmas day but not had time to watch) again today. I think I enjoyed it more the 2nd time around.
But lord those urchins - please never again unless they all get exterminated/deleted/liquidated!Creator of Doctor WHeasel and sometime political radical
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2nd Jan 2009, 12:18 AM #3WhiteCrow Guest
We had a chirpy Cockney in charge of the gas company.
We probably had lots of Victorian fog as well.
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2nd Jan 2009, 4:36 PM #4
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2nd Jan 2009, 5:21 PM #5
It was quite chilly in Talons - look at the fog on the Doctor's breath!
As for cliches:
* Prostitutes. You'd think every third woman was a whore in the 19th Century.
* Philanthropic men who are actually quite nasty. Hypocrites! You couldn't be any more 'Dickens' if you had a character (who everyone thought was dead) turn up alive and well three quarters of the way through.
* Victorian Steampunk.
* A mysterious un-named character having a secret meeting.
* An inheritance.
* A wedding.
Oh hang on, this is still Doctor Who, isn't it?Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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3rd Jan 2009, 1:57 PM #6
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3rd Jan 2009, 7:54 PM #7which seeing as it has Queen Victoria in must be Victorian.Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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3rd Jan 2009, 9:33 PM #8WhiteCrow Guest
Tooth and Claw, they sit down to a dinner part before being attacked, then take refuge in the library! Thats pretty cliched.
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3rd Jan 2009, 9:46 PM #9
I was pointing out that the ones you listed were not in this particular Victorian story.
And which Victorian story do the people sit down to dinner & then take refuge in a library after being attacked other than TaC?
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3rd Jan 2009, 10:18 PM #10
They certainly didn't do that in Evil of the Daleks.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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3rd Jan 2009, 10:29 PM #11WhiteCrow Guest
It feels like a very cliched Victorian thing to do. This thread is meant to be a bit of fun about "stories in Victorian eras" in general - not just Who.
"If her majesty does not mind, luncheon will be served, we'll then retire to the library before the monstrous attack begins."
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Another cliche has to be correcting someone on their ettiquette before getting all William 1st on his ass.
"The correct form of address is 'Your Majesty'!"
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3rd Jan 2009, 11:57 PM #12
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4th Jan 2009, 12:01 AM #13WhiteCrow Guest
Its a general discussion based on a recent new Who. Kind of fits.
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4th Jan 2009, 6:12 PM #14
They sit down for dinner in "Ghost Light".
If that helps!
I couldn't swear they actually ate it though.
"Mark of the Rani" manages to avoid being overly wintery. It's more autumnal.
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4th Jan 2009, 7:40 PM #15WhiteCrow Guest
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7th Jan 2009, 12:15 PM #16
And they do have dinner in the Talons of Weng-Chiang!
For every fail, there is an equal and opposite win.
...Oh, who am I kidding?
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7th Jan 2009, 12:31 PM #17WhiteCrow Guest
It's true - it seems the Doctor only accepts invitations to dinner when he's in the Victorian era.
It's not like him and Rose have sat down for a meal at the Burger King, when all of a sudden, there's an outbreak of zombie aliens.
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7th Jan 2009, 12:54 PM #18
Aside from when he has Christmas dinner with the Tylers in The Christmas Invasion of course.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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7th Jan 2009, 1:05 PM #19WhiteCrow Guest
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8th Jan 2009, 3:41 PM #20
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8th Jan 2009, 4:25 PM #21WhiteCrow Guest
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