Black Guardian Trilogy DVD

[Jason Thompson]

It wouldn't be THAT stupid if it was a standalone story - the three stories were aired perfectly seperately, it's only fans in hindsight that have termed it a trilogy. And they came out individually on VHS.

Sorry, Si, but I don't follow your logic here at all. The three stories were written as a set of three, carry a whole sub-plot throughout, aired one after the other, and released individually but in order and consecutively on video. How does this set of stories not qualify as a trilogy? They're more tightly linked than the E-space trilogy, certainly (one of which was written long before the idea of e-space ever came up, and one of which isn't set in e-space at all).

[shada pavlova]

Yeah...what he said.

[Zbigniev Hamson]

Still wouldn't be the stupidest stunt ever though...

[Si Hunt]

That would be if Dan Hall stripped naked, painted a big skull on his chest and stood on top of Tower Bridge in a Liza Goddard space helmet to promote the "Terminus" DVD.

Si.

[shada pavlova]

Don't give them ideas!

[Jason Thompson]

That would be if Dan Hall stripped naked, painted a big skull on his chest and stood on top of Tower Bridge in a Liza Goddard space helmet to promote the "Terminus" DVD.

Si.

While shouting 'we're all going to DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!'... .

[Stuart Wallis]

I put mine in a drawer too!

Actually, all my DW DVDs are in a drawer, but the box-set slip covers are in a different part of the drawer to the DVD cases...

Why do I now have this image of you rummaging through your drawers whenever you want a bit of entertainment?

[SiHart]

Extras for the other two (and 2nd Enlightenment disc) have been cleared at the BBFC:

00:00:55:03 (CONTINUITY)
00:05:13:15 MAWDRYN UNDEAD - DELETED & EXTENDED SCENES
00:03:25:14 (FILM TRIMS)
00:05:33:02 MAWDRYN UNDEAD - OUT TAKES
00:00:47:23 (EASTER EGG 1)
00:00:32:10 (EASTER EGG 2)
00:24:29:11 (WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER?)
00:01:25:10 MAWDRYN UNDEAD SET PHOTO GALLERY
00:07:18:24 (LIBERTY HALL)
00:07:28:08 MAWDRYN UNDEAD PHOTO GALLERY
00:02:17:13 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 1)
00:01:38:12 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 2)
00:00:42:16 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 3)
00:00:11:01 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 4)
00:00:32:02 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 5)
00:01:37:13 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 6)
00:00:05:03 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 7)
00:00:35:18 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 8)
00:00:04:18 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 9)
00:02:00:05 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 10)
00:01:24:04 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 11)
00:00:09:06 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 12)
00:00:10:01 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 13)
00:00:42:04 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 14)
00:00:16:23 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 15)
00:00:28:22 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 16)
00:00:38:15 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 17)
00:00:05:24 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 18)
00:00:05:05 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 19)
00:01:07:01 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 20)
00:01:37:04 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 21)
00:00:08:17 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 22)

Terminus

00:03:25:16 TERMINUS - UNUSED MODEL SHOTS
00:01:50:07 DR WHO - TERMINUS
00:00:30:04 (EASTER EGG 1)
00:00:51:16 (EASTER EGG 2)
00:06:26:05 ORIGINS OF THE UNIVERSE
00:22:49:17 BREAKING POINT
00:00:31:10 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 1)
00:00:20:05 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 2)
00:02:20:05 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 3)
00:00:21:20 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 4)
00:00:07:23 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 5)
00:00:38:09 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 6)
00:00:15:04 (CGI OPTION PART 1 - SEQUENCE 7)
00:00:27:10 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 8)
00:00:04:24 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 9)
00:00:28:14 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 10)
00:00:06:06 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 11)
00:00:15:05 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 12)
00:00:03:22 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 13)
00:00:09:21 (CGI OPTION PART 2 - SEQUENCE 14)
00:00:06:23 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 15)
00:00:09:12 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 16)
00:01:13:20 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 17)
00:00:28:02 (CGI OPTION PART 3 - SEQUENCE 18)
00:00:40:03 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 19)
00:00:06:08 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 20)
00:00:31:18 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 21)
00:00:29:24 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 22)
00:01:55:16 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 23)
00:00:16:01 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 24)
00:00:12:02 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 25)
00:00:36:06 (CGI OPTION PART 4 - SEQUENCE 26)

Enlightenment (Disc One)

00:23:46:07 WINNER TAKES ALL (MAKING OF)
00:10:32:13 CASTING OFF! (FEATURETTE)
00:05:56:05 ENLIGHTENMENT - ORIGINAL STORYBOARDS & VISUAL EFFECTS SHOTS (MULTI ANGLE STORYBOARDS & VFX - ANGLE 1 + COMMENTARY)
00:05:55:18 ENLIGHTENMENT - ORIGINAL STORYBOARDS & VISUAL EFFECTS SHOTS (MULTI ANGLE STORYBOARDS & VFX - ANGLE 2 - MUTE)
00:05:11:23 SINGLE WRITE FEMALE (FEATURETTE)
00:11:52:20 THE STORY OF THE GUARDIANS (FEATURETTE)
00:01:17:14 TARDIS INFORMATION SYSTEM (EASTER EGG 1)
00:01:15:05 NO TITLE ON SCREEN EASTER EGG 2)
00:06:49:11 ENLIGHTENMENT - PHOTO GALLERY

Enlightenment (Disc Two)

00:02:08:22 BBC 1 - DOCTOR WHO - ENLIGHTENMENT (CONTINUITY)
00:03:30:11 RUSSELL HARTY: CHRISTMAS PARTY - BROADCAST - 21 DECEMBER 1982 (ARCHIVAL TV FOOTAGE)
00:05:32:00 ENLIGHTENMENT - FILM TRIMS
00:14:20:09 RE-ENLIGHTENMENT (FEATURETTE)
00:02:33:18 ORIGINAL EDIT COMPARISON - ENLIGHTENMENT - PART THREE
00:08:28:00 FINDING MARK STRICKSON (INTERVIEW)
00:07:44:21 FINDING SARAH SUTTON (INTERVIEW)
00:01:57:15 PHOTO GALLERY - MAKING THE GUARDIAN TRILOGY DVD BOX SET (EASTER EGG

Lots of new CGI it seems.

Si xx

[Pip Madeley]

I don't think there's enough to make me pre-order this (same goes for most Davison stories) but the extras look decent.

[Antony Cox]

Lots of new CGI it seems.

Si xx

Even the most basic of DW stories can be pepped up with a bit of CGI...

[Larry]

even though all the extras have been cleared I'm still putting my money on a January 2010 release date.

[Simon R]

Could this be the September boxed set? There's worse it could be...Muffs and Legends for example.

[Andrew Curnow]

I keep hearing rumours that there's a huge revamp of Enlightenment on this - I know my memory's not all that, but were there actually (m)any dodgy effects in that story? I seem to recall it being pretty darned good as it was.

[Perry Vale]

I keep hearing rumours that there's a huge revamp of Enlightenment on this

Well, there was a revamp/re-edit made for Enlightenment so it seems, by Brendan Sheppard, but it still doesn't seem to have been confirmed if it will appear. Certain comments on Roobarbs seem to suggest it won't, I guess relating to how Brendan appears to have fallen out big time with many other RT members.

even though all the extras have been cleared I'm still putting my money on a January 2010 release date.

Good luck with that!

Looking forward to some Leeeeeeeeee Johnnnnnn action on the dvd.

[Milky Tears]

That should be Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Johhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnn.

[P-Bal]

There is, I believe, a special edition made by Brendan and Fiona Cumming.

[Terry Leptil]

despite these extras being cleared I personaly would be suprised to see it released this year and think it's more likely for a January 2010 release.

Eye of Horus are currently saying that the box set will be released late in 2009. It could be a November release. I’ve heard that The Next Doctor, Planet of the Dead, The Waters of Mars and the final two specials will be released in a box set in (possibly early) 2010 and the BBC probably don’t want to release two Doctor Who box sets the same month. Therefore, The Guardian Trilogy could be considered the January 2010 release. (Originally, The Beginning Box Set was supposed to be released in November 2005 but the Series 1 Box Set was planned for release that month and the BBC didn’t want two box sets of the franchise released in the same month so The Beginning was held back until January 2006.)

The Twin Dilemma was cleared by the BBFC last year and rumoured to be released this year but judging by the look of things, it seems it won’t be. Apparantely, Dan Hall of 2|entertain has said that 2012 will have a mixture of stories from each Doctor's era, so it looks like Twin won't come out until then. These things could be planned in advance but won't always necessarily mean that they will happen.

[Dirk Gently]

The Twin Dilemma was cleared by the BBFC last year and rumoured to be released this year but judging by the look of things, it seems it won’t be.

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind!

[Perry Vale]

The Twin Dilemma was cleared by the BBFC last year

I don't think it was, was it? IIRC, a 'Coming Soon' trailer for it was cleared, but no parts of the story were.

[Si Hunt]

The Fashion Police were asked to clear it, but instead gave it a life sentence.

Si.

[Stuart Wallis]

I don't think "released" is the right word here. "Escaped" I can believe!

[Simon R]

I got all three Guardian stories on Cass-Ette for my 14th birthday.

I'm sure knowing makes you feel much better.

[Pip Madeley]

I got all three Guardian stories on Cass-Ette for my 14th birthday.

I'm sure knowing makes you feel much better.

Hold on, they were released in November 1992 - does that mean you're nearly 31?

[Si Hunt]

No, it just means he couldn't afford to get them as soon as they came out on a 14 year olds budget!

Si.

[Pip Madeley]

Ah, so he's 25 as I thought... ish.

You cradle snatcher.