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25th Oct 2015, 8:47 AM #1
Rate and Discuss: The Woman Who Lived.
Sorry I'm a a bit late. What did you make of last night's episode?
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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25th Oct 2015, 9:00 AM #2
I enjoyed that far more than last week's effort. There was some cracking scenes between Capaldi and Williams that made the whole two part thing worthwhile. The discussion of what immortality (or at least living a long time) does to you was interesting, and far better handled here than it ever was with Captain Jack (nice to hear him referenced too!). Capaldi was superb throughout.
I liked the constant delicate line treading between tragedy and farce throughout too. That's tricky to pull off, but it sort of worked here I think. The scenes at the gallows were good fun, if somewhat reminiscent of The Shakespeare Code. Rufus Hound was great fun- I hope we'll see him again!
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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25th Oct 2015, 8:06 PM #3
That was excellent. A thought-provoking piece of sci-fi and a celebration of life against cynicism. Good episode.
Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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25th Oct 2015, 8:47 PM #4
I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it. I know it's probably not really the point, but the 'lion creature' wasn't the most convincing alien make up we've ever seen, but otherwise enjoyable enough.
Capaldi was very good, and very very 'Tom-like' at times I thought. And although I'm not that big a fan, Rufus Hound was very good in this - there was something very credible about him, especially in the gallows scene.
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25th Oct 2015, 11:35 PM #5
I enjoyed it too - I didn't realise that was Rufus Hound! Well it's pretty clear by now that The Doctor is a most (THE most?) dangerous person to know. He will wreck your life - keep away from him. I'm now longing for a story where he meets someone and they have a right laugh together whilst going on a cracking adventure. Maybe we'll get that post-Clara
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26th Oct 2015, 8:45 AM #6
I pretty much echo what Mr Hart said. I'm really enjoying this series so far. In my view it's the best series for a few years. I'm really liking Capaldi, especially this year. The slower pacing really suits me too.
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26th Oct 2015, 10:40 AM #7
Nice to see the Tereleptils getting a mention! But please please please - drop the guitar stuff and the sonic sunglasses.
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26th Oct 2015, 12:13 PM #8
An unusual but enjoyable episode!
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26th Oct 2015, 3:31 PM #9
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That would be nice...
I'm not quite sure what to make of this episode, since I enjoyed the discussion about the effects the Doctor has on people somewhat, although it usually gets in the way of telling a story, and that's been done a few times now at the series' detriment IMHO. I'm glad Clara was rested for an episode, but I would've liked the ending to have been less drawn out and far less obvious.
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27th Oct 2015, 6:31 AM #10
I enjoyed that, although the outcome for Maisie Williams character was obvious all the way through the episode. It would hve been a bigger twist to have her remain a unfeeling, cold-hearted villain rather than finally remembering who she actually was. An interesting story over the two episodes though, looking at the consequences of the Doctor's actions after he's left and how someone would deal with immortality. I wonder how much of your life you would actually remember if you lived 800 years?
It was a little bit slow at times though, imo. The exact opposite from Under The Lake (a great story with rather bland supporting characters) in which this concentrated on characterisation with the action playing second fiddle. It would be nice to see this level of characterisation in a faster paced story as well...I suppose it's asking a bit much for both at the same tme, though!
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27th Oct 2015, 3:39 PM #11
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I think that's been one of the main problems for me with New Who (forgive me for repeating myself!) - the fine line between character development and plot; it's been a struggle for them to have both at once IMHO.
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28th Oct 2015, 12:48 PM #12
It was a good episode and the consequences of being immortal were well dealt with, although as someone pointed out, why didn't she give one of her babies the other immortality fix? My one complaint is that this season seems to have been graded down so the whole thing feels very grey and washed out. It consequently feels like a very drab season visually and I wish they'd brighten it up a bit.
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28th Oct 2015, 1:40 PM #13
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28th Oct 2015, 2:44 PM #14
Also it seems to stop you from growing older, so the baby would have remained a baby for centuries, which wouldn't be fun.
I only rated the episode 5/10, it wasn't terrible by any means but certain aspects of it really bothered me (William's ability to not only sound like a man, but also look like one who was obviously a lot taller, the really rubbish lion man make up) and some of the talky stuff dragged on for way too long. I thought it was also shoddily directed in places (the cut from them being on top of the roof at night to walking through the woods in daylight especially) and after having seen the sky torn apart and fireballs destroying the area, I'm surprised the villagers weren't angry / scared by events, rather than simply relieved it was all over.
Capaldi was great again though, and it being Jenna-lite was a bonus, but this was the first episode of the series that I didn't really enjoy that much."RIP Henchman No.24."
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28th Oct 2015, 2:56 PM #15
I preferred this episode to last weeks. In fact this was the best of the season so far for me.
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30th Oct 2015, 11:41 PM #16
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5 out of 10.
Pretty much what Alex said.
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23rd May 2024, 1:01 AM #17
how does Ashildr get that big house and become an apparently well-known female peer? It would be fairly easy to pass her off as coming from a wealthy merchant family but being in the aristocracy means you should have something she can't fake, that being a visible past.
Someone popping up claiming to be the descendant of such and such a lady would be under an enormous amount of scrutiny and suspicion.
Plus - and this applies to any non-aristocratic identities - women weren't allowed to inherit property, so if she faked her own death and came back even as her own grand-daughter even at a more modest social rank she'd still have to start from scratch.
A single woman in possession of an estate that size in 1651 would be the subject of intense interest and gossip and near-daily proposals of marriage. Even if she were passing as a member of the gentry rather than the aristocracy, she'd be one of the most visible people in England at that time.
It's also not just a question of scaring/buying off one or two enquiries. A self-styled aristocrat with a mysterious past popping up out of nowhere would attract official attention at the best of times. In the aftermath of the Charles I-Parliament civil war, with everyone suspect and large swathes of the country effectively controlled by a paranoid theocratic militia (hardly the comedy yokels seen here), Ashildr would be the one far more likely to become exposed to less pleasant methods of persuasion.
Like Amy Hardwood, Ashildr does a very impressive male impersonation voice when robbing the coach but completely forgets to put it on when she runs into Sam Swift. Fortunately, he's like Baldrick and doesn't realise who she is.
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